@EvaOtaku07

I'm not the guy who scans those doujins, so I have no idea about releasing them.

But right now, one thing I know is that you and your friends rate 1 star maliciously to my gallery.

I hope that you know you behavior is vulgar. You should feel shameful about that.

If you really want to get the raws, buy those yourself. Please do not do the despicable behavior to my galleries.

I warn you to stop doing such a behavior.

★現在咱可以肯定，是 EvaOtaku07 和他的朋友做出惡意一星的卑劣行為的~中文翻譯組有選擇發不發生肉的權利，但這不代表你們可以因此去差評畫廊。

很多英翻組也不發生肉，而且這種風氣就源自英翻組，不過咱從沒看到有人敢在英翻組那邊要生肉（估計有也被vote down了）。

不要以為華人這邊就好欺負。如果你們生肉廚實在等不下去生肉，自己去買就行了。

不發生肉我坦蕩蕩

不要起爭議啦

@z-z
請自己搜索life4Kaoru的英翻本
有相當多本都沒有生肉

另外不貼生肉我覺得沒什麼不好 畢竟同人作者也是要靠這個賺錢的
講白一點網路上有中翻本有英翻本有旁遮普翻本 只要沒有生肉那日本宅想看就一定要去買正版
而同人本對海外人士來說入手不易 日本的同人作者也不會依靠銷售海外來賺錢
這種讓海外人士有得看 又讓同人作者保持銷路的作法我覺得也不賴啊
至於語言問題就像Neet遙說的各憑本事 有本事自購自掃的人當然可以大聲

不過我也贊同你講的 這裡畢竟是英文語系為主的地方 所以某些人心生不滿打低分發洩也是可以理解
我的看法是低分就低分 反正發過幾個本子GP就花不完了 GP也不是什麼多珍貴的東西 收入少一點不會少塊肉的
為了被打低分而生氣其實我覺得意義也不大就是了

@GayMa
你講的很對
所以Neet遙要在他的畫廊來抱怨某人惡意打低分 不也是他的權利嗎?

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虽然不是很明白，还是支持空气汉化组的说···

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@EvaOtaku07

Okay, fine. Since you said like this, I won't further pursue this issue. Even my galleries were rated as 1 star quickly, as soon as I posted those doujins without raws.

Chinese groups do have the rights to post the raws or not,. I told POP9 the reasons why our group do not post the raws, and it is based on the similar reasons with those Eng groups. If you really want to get raws, fine, you can go to Japen to buy all doujins you like, or buy the DL ones.

The work of our group is just translation, and the raws are scanned by others. My responsibility is just to upload the translation doujins for those people who need them. I did not keep any raws. Even you need them or someone need them, I can tell you that I do not have any raws.

For those people who rate 1 star maliciously, please know that, at least, you can read the doujins earlier than before even they are not raw versions, but it is better than nothing. If we do not post Chinese version, you may wait for a long time for the raws and read those. We upload Chineses versions, you can just considered them as previews, if you really hate this language. But if you want to rate 1 star, please tell me the reasons why.

Is it clear for everyone? Any complaints or statement if you want to share, welcome to post here. I do not want to see any unpleasant issues happened here.

Edit: Yes, one of those reasons is as you said here, and we have 2 other reasons. If you or any other guys really want to know all our group's reasons, fine, just PM me, and I will tell you those reasons.

@farsansandberg

Sure, I certainly know that posting raws will be great for everyone, but you know, we are not the only group that do like this. Therefore, if you guys can persuade other groups to post raws, I will bet my life to persuade the scan guys to give me raws and allow me to post raws. Could you?

@z-z

這個舉例子 咱可以認為是拐彎抹角釣魚拉仇恨嗎？~如果咱把英翻組點名貼這裡，咱估計會被國際友人噴到死吧www~提示1 自己去EH搜 english ~然後你就明白了~多說無益~還有你說什麽自作自受還真是刻薄~這個網站的確是英文為主沒錯~但沒說禁止發佈其他語言版本或者發了中文就必須發生肉吧~我們的服務對象是華人全體和想提前看沒有日文掃本的任何國家的人~本來是件服務你們的事~非要讓你說的這麼低級 你看看你~

你知道嗎~國外組有時候也有求生肉的~但外國人很團結的就能把那人的評論踩下去~反觀我們華人這邊，咱還是站在有理的立場 就被你這個自己人給捅了一刀子~所以說，華人其實是敗在自己人手上這點真的很正確~★

至於咱個人來講，我們都是盜版受益者~也沒什麼優越可言~既然都已經做了違法勾當~同在一條船上~我們當然希望自己能被公平對待了~所以如果E紳士所有組都被你們這麼勸說接受了放生肉大家一起用的提議~咱也會去勸說我們的掃圖君~大家都放生肉這種理想結果沒人不想看到吧~★

@GayMa

你說話別這麼難聽~誰規定漢化完就必須留生肉了~跟大多數人一樣 我們拿到掃圖就修圖然後嵌字是基於修圖版~難道漢化組每次還爲了你們這些生肉廚特意準備一份生肉嗎 這位大爺？~再說了 有中文化的 為啥還要留生肉啊~ ~要是不爽漢化組就去自購生肉~不瞭解漢化組內部說什麽說~

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Uploading is good, while not uploading is not bad either.

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All this business about Korean/Chinese translators withholding their raws has been bugging me for a while, so I'll just come out of lurking and attempt to mediate and maybe make things work. Because doujins are serious business.

各位華語使用者:
身為個傾向於原文派的小弟 我多少可以了解他們的不滿啦: 眼前擺著本子 高高興的點進去 但內容卻是莫名其妙的韓文或中文 有點殘忍吧?
況且英翻組理很少會有韓翻英或中翻英的人員 所以通常要是沒出原文版的話他們會永遠等不到英翻版 (或像我這種等原文的也只好吞下眼淚認了) 他們就只能以這樣的downvoting方式發洩情緒
確實的, raws 要貼或不貼的決定權是在翻譯組手上 但是別忘了這網站得來客主要都是說英文的 這樣子繼續擺爛 引起大眾的不滿, 說難聽一點 是自作自受吧?
當然的 我也不是單純的在為這些downraters辯解; 只是多少解釋他們的心情 應該很容易了解吧?

再說 不貼原文版不只是說會沒有英文版 連什麼法文德文俄文旁遮普文版 也都沒轍 所以說對各位這樣的行為不以為然的人數會是蠻多的
還有: NEET☆遥氏所說的英翻沒貼生肉 可以舉個例子嗎? 我個人沒什麼印象
嘛 各位大大都身為紳士同士 就互相禮讓點吧 有點 "HENTAI of the world, unite!" 的感覺
可以的話 可以想辦法把生肉拿到手嗎? 這樣問題就解決了 因為這種有出翻版但一直沒raws的例子我看太多了
況且我們不像住在亞洲國家那麼方便 要買就買得到

PS: 各位華語使用著是從哪裡來的? 有點好奇

tl;dr: (too linguisticallychallenged; didn't read)
I asked them chinese folks to post raws because not doing so really pisses people off.

To the downraters, whoever you are: rating down galleries because you're frustrated about having no raws accomplishes nothing at all.
In a sense, you're only embarrassing yourself and the rest of the English speaking-internets, (on an international scale,) and annoying these chinese/korean people, who own the raws. You see, in these cultures, people usually don't share raws with people who annoy them.
Learn some goddamn manners before coming on the internet, alright?

EDIT: lol, late.

EDITEDIT:

@塔布里斯: 我個人到是有去過店裡實際消費喔 花費的金額還不小(笑)

@NEET☆遥: 唉呀? 似乎說了什麼讓人非常不滿的話
抱歉,我華語並不是說得很流利 要是失言的話 在下就先在這裡道歉一聲
以及 對於我在無知的狀況下做的發言 也道個歉
不過 "捅了一刀子" 這種話說了還真傷人心阿 我只是來替雙方便解的 竟然把我說成叛徒似的
再怎麼說 我英德日中都通 生肉貼不貼對我影響也不會太大
話說 你要是是認真的想讓大家一起分享raws得話 這也是可以談的

EDITEDITEDIT:
My comment has been downvoted because they don't want to share their raws. Note the irony here. They also accuse English groups of withholding their raws, and I am branded as a 'traitor,' for trying to get some communication between this lingual gulf and appearing to side with the English speakers. Meanwhile I can't enjoy this doujin anymore, because my mood is spoiled.
This has been a pretty bad day.

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因為沒有付過一分錢
有人上傳當然相當感激
如果沒有就當從來都沒有

只是伸手叫囂要拿本
拿不到就隨便攻擊別人
這是那裡來的廢人

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@GayMa

本來我就是围观一下..你扯到我干啥ww
然后Power Mod是靠刷HV,论坛回帖和+K来的..和传本子一点关系也没有啊亲..

喔，这个光环给我加了3点的power..
我并没有说我没传过，我只是告诉你传本和Power Mod的多少没什么关系而已

Base +30, tcsww +14, Chihiro Kosaka +18, Azusa Hiiragi +19, wosumogu +4

Not posting (non-public) raws makes it harder for Japanese to get their hands on the raws. Which is a good thing.

Base +25, ace_amuro +27, Azusa Hiiragi +19

感谢空气系小组的辛勤劳动 :)

Base +21, sakurarin +4, altereggo -22

有本能嚕不謝天嗎=_=
總比沒人傳還要自己買好很多吧=_=

Base +24, Azusa Hiiragi +19, altereggo -22

支持漢化組，還有放生肉不是漢化組的義務

Base +27, Azusa Hiiragi +19, sakurarin +4, altereggo -22, hondawhr +6, wosumogu +4

我在想,每一個不放日文本的翻譯組也是有其苦衷的...有誰會不想多賺點GP?
大家互相體諒吧

I can understand those who want to read the raw instead of translated. However, please also be considerate to the translation group as they may have some ineffable difficulties. Who don't want to distribute the raw for more GP?

Let's be kind to each other. :)

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看著同胞們在外國人的網站上吵架，真心感到無奈···都是自己人，不能讓外國人看笑話啊！

Base +6, mklopp +20, Azusa Hiiragi +19, sundijie -5, kevin54353 -7, altereggo -22, wosumogu +4

既然觉得这件事情公说公有理婆说婆有理还在这里吵起来没完干嘛？
吵架能解决问题也到好了，矛盾激化的后果就是谁都没好果子吃，连这个道理都不懂就不用回复了。
一个个都搞的和卫道士一样，实际还不是那么点事？
看的懂中文就拿走中文，看不懂就等其他版本的，现在不放源就代表永远都没人扫了？英文组也有很多不放源的，之后也不是一本没有吧？
画风好的本子总会有人放，脱了裤子等着生肉这种行为还是省省吧，没有生肉就记下来，以后会流出的，之前空气系自扫的本子不是也都有人放流了吗？如果你说你现在就要撸，马上就要撸，那当我没说~

@GayMa
这种事情见了不是一次两次了就不要来凑这热闹了，劳心费神能落下什么好？
不管说多少话，难听好听与否，现状如此，既然无力改变就只能去适应，我看你也明白不管大家在这里扯多少都不会有生肉一起流出来这个道理吧？
静观其变不是更好吗？

@EvaOtaku07
No one wants to see the situation going worse. We just need a paradise where we can share our favorite doujin and manga.
As we all know the rate system is anonymous so that we general users will never know who rate the gallery as 1 star. Also we don't want to bother admin for such a case. I understand your thought that you can't buy doujin and you extremely want to see the raws others shared on e-hentai or other website. Sometimes I also hate those who scanned the book and showed us "I have the book which you want see" but never upload the raws. While the original book belongs to the man who pay for it and he has the right to deal with the book, the scanned raw and the usage of it. If you shared your raws of course I will appreciate your generous but if you wouldn't upload the raw I will respect your right as the owner of the book. Endless quarral makes nothing about the situation. I wish that both side can calm down and find a way to solve the awkward condition.

@z-z
Maybe there are also gaps between Chinese and English speaking people in the world of doujin, manga and so on.
Once I wished that otaku all over the world are of the same family but now I found my thorogh mistake.
I have no idea about current situation because neither I can afford the doujin nor do I help those who translate and edit the doujin into language besides Japanese. I feel sad but I can do nothing.
In my point what we need is just communication, isn't? Well, perhaps keeping ourselves is the only thing we can do now.
Just stay cool and wait for the changes.

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伸手党永远都是这么叼毛的……

Base +5, altereggo -22, notocon +20, wosumogu +4

stop fighting, people post whatever the hell they want and you ain't got shit on them.
Did you pay for viewing anything here? No? Good, shut the fuck up.

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点进来想夸画风好
妈的智障
一下子被恶心到了

Base +5

我们是来看六花酱的，不是来看吵架的OK？

汉化组放不放生肉难道不是自己的权利吗？
（不过确实没有原版难以搜索查阅了）

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