No need to self insert on stories like these, that's how the whole hatred towards these stories stem from. Appreciate what we got. Great art. Super sexy hawt heroine. Hot and heavy lustful sex. Just let it wash over you and enjoy it for what it is.

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I have more of an issue with how bad the cucking is being represented. Even a fetish like cucking is based on trust between the couple which tends to be mishandled between these two and has led to Pat having a breakdown in the book. Cucking as a fetish can be fun but it is easy to screw up and make it look more abusive than it should be. Unfortunately with how one sided and mean spirited it is presented between these two a lot of the time it is easy to see it being abusive even if it is supposed to be loving.

I honestly don't think the cucking fetish itself is the issue people have with this artist and character but how it is mishandled with these characters, which while the actual sex is hot can be somewhat of a turn off if you liked the characters before they became like this.

I mean this has even been marked as netorare, which if this ended up with that actually happening is a very, very wrong way for the fetish to go.

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I don't see why cucking has to conform to what most people would see as "loving" or that means it's toxic/abusive. It's entirely possible that Pat likes being degraded a little bit. Being masochistic is not always about physical pain, sometimes it's (measured) emotional torment. Looking forward to seeing more of this comic!

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Eh, it's not masochistic if Pat can just take time out to screw his sister. Kadath's certainly taken a hard lean into Pat getting cucked and Night being a town bicycle, but he seems to have forgotten that he's made it canon that Pat and Puzzle fuck each other. Since Kadath's all about swinger characters, his recent comics, about Pat getting cucked, is an exercise in- why should I care?

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>She gave me puppy dog eyes that's why I let another man fuck my girlfriend.

Yeah, Pat is officially a cuck now. I understand that he's okay with Shade dominating other men but this is straight up cuckolding. Now I'm not trying to knock on people who like cuckolding, everyones got their own fetishes after all. But the way it's portrayed in this comic is stupid as fuck! It's totally out of character for Shade to do this to Patrick, or for Patrick to let this happen. Pat and Shade have always been portrayed as being in an open relationship. I.E. he fucks a few girls and she dominates a few guys, at no point have they been shown to be into cuckholding until now. There's no way the old Patrick would let some random guy show up and fuck his girlfriend on their romantic getaway vacation.

This comic makes Pat look like a spinless tool and it makes Shade look like a heartless slut who wants to fuck random guys in front of her boyfriend just to hurt him. I love Kadaths work but this comic sucked. This comic is not about swinging it's about Patrick getting cucked.

Last edited on 17 September 2018, 23:26 UTC.

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@FurryRyuho

Where does that happen?

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The breakdown Pat goes through? It happens in the book called "Bucking the System" I believe. Nightshade ends up going too far with the buck and the cucking overall and after a foursome Pat was never told about happens Pat just has a breakdown and iirc ends up going to Nightshade's boss to talk about what he should do. The book itself is not canon but Kadath has described it as in character for the characters. Which is a big part of my issue with how the cucking is presented. The way that it has been shown tends to be very one sided a lot of the time and many of the things that couples that do cuck do to make sure things don't become actual issues are skipped over or forgotten about. Which is an issue both because it displays the fetish as more negative than it really is and because the character of Nightshade herself is supposed to be an experienced dominatrix who eases her subs into their roles, which conflicts with both of the most recent showings where she and the buck just jumped into things and we are told that Pat is ok with it for the most part until the breakdown.

The times before and after the cucking are generally some of the most important for the entire thing to work. Before with talking, discussing rules, and threesomes until the cuck backs off by themself, showing they are comfortable with the new buck. Unless it is actual cheating or netorare the lover jumping the new buck before making absolutely sure the cuck is ok with things and before discussing rules is a big no no for couples that practice cucking. An experienced couple can make that process faster but it is still generally required. Pat and Nadia being decently new at the fetish makes it unlikely that they are at that point. After the act then the aftercare is just as important, couples who cuck are doing it at the end of the day for each other. Showing proper care and love for their lover at the end is very important for the couple as it reestablishes that they are doing it for each other and not themselves. All taunting, comparing, and degrading generally stops at this point and the focus becomes entirely on the lover.
The buck joining in on taunting is also a very bad thing if they are not aware of the rules like Joshua here isn't aware of them. Honestly the situation as shown is something that is more just told to us that it works rather than how it actually would. From what I heard Kadath may have been in a bad cucking relationship at some point though which would make sense why it is shown this way though.

On another note though it seems Pat and Puzzle's incest has been retconned, as has a lot of the earlier stories including Pat and Nightshade's earlier relationship(Pat says a few things here that contradicts one of their first sexual encounters we see). From what I heard Kadath doesn't like incest any more so he retconned it and much of the stories around that time out entirely. Nightshade and Diamond's "rivalry" seeming like one of the only things to have made it into the new canon.

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If it's a retcon, it makes about as much sense as any of the retcons in RWBY. That is to say, none whatsoever.

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@funkwolf
I suppose if you know nothing about RWBY that makes sense.

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if they want children, they'll have to adopt or get a sperm donor
and knowing Jade, she would prefer the later
it's inevitable

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Kadath is so fucking back and forth on what is and isn't canon.

He's said that these comics where Patrick is cuckolded are non-canon, but there are now starting to be a shitload of em and there is nothing in them anywhere saying what has or hasn't happened "in canon".

And this? This is just up front abuse and is the most negative aspects of this fetish possible.

Why am I bitching about it? Mayb because I like Patrick and don't enjoy seeing him get the utter shit abused out of him as of late.

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Nightshade's reaction to Pat's attempt at dirty talk is my response to anyone's dirty talk. It's so silly. XD

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New HD version up with several wording changes!

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"Why am I bitching about it? Mayb because I like Patrick and don't enjoy seeing him get the utter shit abused out of him as of late."
But if you say that, Kadath will just come out and say YOU'RE the problem. Do you know WHY so many people are bitching about Nightshade's abuse of Patrick, Mr. Kadath? Because you made us CONNECT WITH HIM. We LIKED what you did with him before, and now you took him away and just turned him into something to be abused. What's that? It's NOT abuse, and they actually LOVE each other, despite their unconventional way of showing it? I'm sorry, but it's a LITTLE TRICKY to read their relationship as "loving" when you're making crap like THIS:

https://e621.net/post/show/1774123/2019-areola-blush-breasts-canid-canine-canis-cloth

Her boyfriend shows up at her place of work and she's EMBARRASSED to see him? Yep! THAT'S love! That doesn't even make sense from the cuck/sub angle, since Pat is practically THROWING another guy at her for her to enjoy (and maybe for PAT to vicariously enjoy as well), but she doesn't want to take advantage of it. This is the problem with Pat and Nightshade's relationship; it's not that it's unconventional, it's that it's represented HORRIBLY. Even in a comic like this which allows us more insight into how he MIGHT enjoy his position in this clearly one-sided relationship, it looks like he's just lying to himself about it. It's EXPLAINED that he likes seeing Nightshade with other guys, but why do we never see him SMILING about it, or jerking off as he watches them fuck?

Contrariwise, was there ANY confusion over how he felt about his relationship with PUZZLE? Was anyone at all confused as to why they were together? ...Anyone?...

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